A tank in Hall of Heroes (farming) - Guild Wars Forums

Old Fart Gamer · Apr 10, 2006, 11:33 PM // 23:33

I have been having a hard time finding a group that will take a tank (W/R) into the Hall of Heroes. It's all about B/P this and Orders that

. All I want to do is find Victo's Battle axe (and no, I don't want to just buy it off someone). No one seems to want to take a tank into the HofH...why? I thought tanks were an essential part of any balanced grp. And is there any way that I can coerce people into taking me into their grp?

thanx,
OFG

Ka El Windstorm · Apr 10, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

I can give you mine, if you want it. And yes i said give.

Maria The Princess · Apr 10, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team!

why nobody takes you? cuz tanks are useless in a BP group and are the first to accumulate 60 dp
we have 5 pets and bone horrors to tank, no place for a Warior, cuz we kik ass so much better then a balanced group.

or join a BALANCED group, which includes Tank, Eles, SS, Monks and somethin else (i never go in balanced groups so im not sure of the exact build), or you can join as a healer into a BP group. use SEARCH to find THE build for Tombs tank

oh yeah....you have 4 character slots for a good reason.

ApOcAlYpSe · Apr 10, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

In this case, tanks are all but useless. No Im not saying that you cant the tombs with a tank Im just saying that so far the most efficient way to clear out the area is with a B/P group. In these groups the pets and minions act like the tanks. There are a lot more little tanks and they take up room, so they body block more effectively. There are some balanced groups that go in with a tank or two, but for the most part its just easier with B/P. Hope that helped with your question.

TaMa · Apr 10, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

join a HA active guild. It helps to have ventrilo or ts. PM me in game if you ever need help

X Firestorm · Apr 10, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

he int looking to get in a pvp guild lol. he means 'new' pve tombs

Stealthy Trapper · Apr 10, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

[QUOTE=Maria The Princess]hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team!

Amen my friend!!!!

I'm just afraid that Assassins will be neglected in Factions the same way Rangers were in prophecies.

Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

i'd be surprised..... assasin seemed to be very popular during the preview, in my view its a mix of a warior (60%) and ranger (40%)
the only probl;em with it is the forced chain skilles... 1 interupted and youre stuk. but i realy enjoyed using it.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 11, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

If you want to coerce people, uninstall Guild Wars pronto.

As stated above, B/P is by far the most efficient way (so far) to clear ToPK, because minions and pets act like tanks, and the dead pets actually are a benefit, allowing Death Nova damage and more minions. If you really want to get in, just grab some friends and form a B/P minus one ranger, or a balanced group.

Or, you could Oro farm and use the money from that to buy the axe.

Haggard · Apr 11, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaMa

join a HA active guild. It helps to have ventrilo or ts. PM me in game if you ever need help

He means the Tombs of Primeval Kings, where you fight to clear out the Rift of evil fiends, and steal some cheap cheap greens at the end (except the bulwark.. and ogre knife)

Old Fart Gamer · Apr 11, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Well, this isn't what I wanted to hear

I won't give up tho... I just fought thru ToPK/Hall of Heroes about 4 times in 'balanced' grps and got as far as the 4th tier. The reason we didn't go farther was because of lack of teamwork not lack of proper skills/professions. It was promising tho and will prolly try to lead/create my own grps in the future.
The reason why I don't go with my guildies is that no one is as far as I am yet (small start up guild). Thanx for all the replies tho, has helped me realize what I'm up against

....I won't give up!!

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 11, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

You could make a monk, necro, or ranger and farm ToPK till you're blue in the face. FWIW, I think ToPK farming is boring as hell and sucks.

Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon

You could make a monk, necro, or ranger and farm ToPK till you're blue in the face. FWIW, I think ToPK farming is boring as hell and sucks.

IDK.... i like it for the fun. its fun doin it (when youre a ranger), well only too bad prices droped so dramaticlly... even buwlrak isnt 100k anymore

and BTW, just go to ORO, and within 2 hours you will be able to buy 3 victos axes, with some shield, so if youre not BP, you got a long, hard, painful way to go.

ps- make sure your eyes dont start bleeding before you get to Darkness with balanced group...

good luck

{IceFire} · Apr 11, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

he didn't ask for sermons saying why tanks suck... nor did he ask for other farming methods... :3

~anyways it is pretty hard to find a group as a tank, i guess if youre lucky a guild group could take you... b/p groups are just really good in tombs is why no one wants them.

Kook~NBK~ · Apr 11, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

B/P ranger groups just get through Tombs quicker than others (about an hour compared to 1-1/2 to 2 hours). You can do it as a stance tank with a balanced (echo nuker or 2) group -there are a few running around.

I've done it with my guildies when it first went PvE, and it wasn't a whole lot of fun, because it's been my experience as a tank that the whole purpose for being in there was to block baddies from the casters & take a beating. And don't worry about doing a lot of damage, as you're blind for most of the time!

Juicey Shake · Apr 11, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are [teams.. hah! who needs 'em..]

solo FoW
solo ice imps
solo UW

rangers rock, just, you know.. by yourself, all explorer - 'I kill creatures before they know I've attacked them' types, us rangers are...

Arkantos · Apr 11, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

I myself have a warrior AND a ranger.
Your mad because your tank cant find a group to get into tombs. If your mad because of this, I think you'd need anger managment if you were a ranger. I personally like rangers, but they arent accepted in so many places. Tanks are needed in many places, but tombs is one place that rangers can find a group.

Sofonisba · Apr 11, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by Old Fart Gamer

I have been having a hard time finding a group that will take a tank (W/R) into the Hall of Heroes. It's all about B/P this and Orders that

. All I want to do is find Victo's Battle axe (and no, I don't want to just buy it off someone). No one seems to want to take a tank into the HofH...why? I thought tanks were an essential part of any balanced grp. And is there any way that I can coerce people into taking me into their grp?

thanx,
OFG

You are correct, tanks are part of a balanced group. However, it's fun and easy to do b/p, which is far from balanced in a traditional sense.

I have to say, when we did start doing Tombs over the first preview weekend, I was monking and we had a balanced group. It. Took. Forever. And not to mention, the warrior (yes a guildie, I like him so he'll forgive me if I say) whined the entire time because he was blind. Monk has to equip half the skill bar just for condition removal. There are no stances or enchantments which can prevent you from being blind, crippled, bleeding over and over and over again from the monsters' Fingers of Chaos. It drove him crazy, drove me crazy.

The axe is very nice. No matter what people say about Tombs nowadays, it is worth having. I'm sure you'll get there someday with a little patience. Or, you could start leveling your monk, necro, or ranger to participate in a b/p group.

xXa1 · Apr 11, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43

OFG:

every farming area can be farmed quickly and efficiently with certain builds and this is true too for ToPK where the 8-man Barrage/Pet build is best and tanks are just not part of that equation, being a liability more than an asset.

in 5 man Oro and FA groups, rangers are unwelcome since they are not as efficient as the cookie-cutter stance tank + bonder + healer + ss/ss/br + mm build.

pity the mesmer farmer imho.

however, i am not saying that it cannot be done with builds outside of the box, i am saying though that it just won't be as efficient.

boxterduke · Apr 11, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Speaking of ranger barrage, pet build wow.
I always went to NUW as a mesmer, monk or necro just doing balanced teams.
My ranger has not even reached the desert at the time.
We went to NUW on Sunday and did pet barrage and wow, it was too much fun.

Apr 10, 2006, 11:33 PM // 23:33	#1
Old Fart Gamer Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA Profession: W/Mo	A tank in Hall of Heroes (farming) I have been having a hard time finding a group that will take a tank (W/R) into the Hall of Heroes. It's all about B/P this and Orders that . All I want to do is find Victo's Battle axe (and no, I don't want to just buy it off someone). No one seems to want to take a tank into the HofH...why? I thought tanks were an essential part of any balanced grp. And is there any way that I can coerce people into taking me into their grp? thanx, OFG

Apr 10, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38	#3
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team! why nobody takes you? cuz tanks are useless in a BP group and are the first to accumulate 60 dp we have 5 pets and bone horrors to tank, no place for a Warior, cuz we kik ass so much better then a balanced group. or join a BALANCED group, which includes Tank, Eles, SS, Monks and somethin else (i never go in balanced groups so im not sure of the exact build), or you can join as a healer into a BP group. use SEARCH to find THE build for Tombs tank oh yeah....you have 4 character slots for a good reason. Last edited by Maria The Princess; Apr 10, 2006 at 11:42 PM // 23:42..

Apr 11, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43	#19
xXa1 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006	OFG: every farming area can be farmed quickly and efficiently with certain builds and this is true too for ToPK where the 8-man Barrage/Pet build is best and tanks are just not part of that equation, being a liability more than an asset. in 5 man Oro and FA groups, rangers are unwelcome since they are not as efficient as the cookie-cutter stance tank + bonder + healer + ss/ss/br + mm build. pity the mesmer farmer imho. however, i am not saying that it cannot be done with builds outside of the box, i am saying though that it just won't be as efficient. Last edited by xXa1; Apr 11, 2006 at 06:49 AM // 06:49..

Apr 10, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#2
Ka El Windstorm Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: R/	I can give you mine, if you want it. And yes i said give.

Apr 10, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38	#4
ApOcAlYpSe Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2005	In this case, tanks are all but useless. No Im not saying that you cant the tombs with a tank Im just saying that so far the most efficient way to clear out the area is with a B/P group. In these groups the pets and minions act like the tanks. There are a lot more little tanks and they take up room, so they body block more effectively. There are some balanced groups that go in with a tank or two, but for the most part its just easier with B/P. Hope that helped with your question.

Apr 10, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41	#5
TaMa Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Guild: Cube Profession: Mo/	join a HA active guild. It helps to have ventrilo or ts. PM me in game if you ever need help

Apr 10, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47	#6
X Firestorm Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Gold Profession: W/	he int looking to get in a pvp guild lol. he means 'new' pve tombs

Apr 10, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47	#7
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	[QUOTE=Maria The Princess]hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team! Amen my friend!!!! I'm just afraid that Assassins will be neglected in Factions the same way Rangers were in prophecies.

Apr 11, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47	#8
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	i'd be surprised..... assasin seemed to be very popular during the preview, in my view its a mix of a warior (60%) and ranger (40%) the only probl;em with it is the forced chain skilles... 1 interupted and youre stuk. but i realy enjoyed using it.

Apr 11, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55	#9
SnoopJeDi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Saved By My Pinchers of Peril Profession: R/N	If you want to coerce people, uninstall Guild Wars pronto. As stated above, B/P is by far the most efficient way (so far) to clear ToPK, because minions and pets act like tanks, and the dead pets actually are a benefit, allowing Death Nova damage and more minions. If you really want to get in, just grab some friends and form a B/P minus one ranger, or a balanced group. Or, you could Oro farm and use the money from that to buy the axe.

Apr 11, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13	#11
Old Fart Gamer Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA Profession: W/Mo	Well, this isn't what I wanted to hear I won't give up tho... I just fought thru ToPK/Hall of Heroes about 4 times in 'balanced' grps and got as far as the 4th tier. The reason we didn't go farther was because of lack of teamwork not lack of proper skills/professions. It was promising tho and will prolly try to lead/create my own grps in the future. The reason why I don't go with my guildies is that no one is as far as I am yet (small start up guild). Thanx for all the replies tho, has helped me realize what I'm up against ....I won't give up!!

Apr 11, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#12
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	You could make a monk, necro, or ranger and farm ToPK till you're blue in the face. FWIW, I think ToPK farming is boring as hell and sucks.

Apr 11, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#14
{IceFire} Forge Runner Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: W/	he didn't ask for sermons saying why tanks suck... nor did he ask for other farming methods... :3 ~anyways it is pretty hard to find a group as a tank, i guess if youre lucky a guild group could take you... b/p groups are just really good in tombs is why no one wants them.

Apr 11, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34	#15
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	B/P ranger groups just get through Tombs quicker than others (about an hour compared to 1-1/2 to 2 hours). You can do it as a stance tank with a balanced (echo nuker or 2) group -there are a few running around. I've done it with my guildies when it first went PvE, and it wasn't a whole lot of fun, because it's been my experience as a tank that the whole purpose for being in there was to block baddies from the casters & take a beating. And don't worry about doing a lot of damage, as you're blind for most of the time!

Apr 11, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#17
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	I myself have a warrior AND a ranger. Your mad because your tank cant find a group to get into tombs. If your mad because of this, I think you'd need anger managment if you were a ranger. I personally like rangers, but they arent accepted in so many places. Tanks are needed in many places, but tombs is one place that rangers can find a group.

Apr 11, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#20
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	Speaking of ranger barrage, pet build wow. I always went to NUW as a mesmer, monk or necro just doing balanced teams. My ranger has not even reached the desert at the time. We went to NUW on Sunday and did pet barrage and wow, it was too much fun.